(This article was originally posted March 18th, reprinted here to escape spam hustlers. )
Imagine, for one second, if the church that Hillary Clinton or John McCain attended regularly for the last twenty years posted this on its web site:
“We are a congregation that is unashamedly white…Our roots in the white religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent…We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a white worship service and ministries which address the white community.“
Clinton and McCain would not only be out of the running for president, their political careers would be in shambles.
Those are the words of Barack Obama’s church.
Insert “black” to replace “white” in the above quotation, and you have the “About Us” section in the web site of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ where the Reverend Jeremiah Wright has spewed hatred of whites from the pulpit and decried this country, using the term at least one time: “God Damn America.”
Just words? (Where have I heard that before?)
Senator Obama has repudiated comments and deeply disagrees with the pastor of that church. Well, that’ll do it. The senator disagrees. Now, let’s move on and stop this racial divide, eh?
Not so fast. The problem doesn’t lie in the statements the pastor has made in one or two sermons. Obama has no choice but to distance himself from such comments, after all, he is running for president.
The problem lies in a pervasive ideology and attitude, not just a few words. It has to do with the senator’s identity.
This didn’t just happen. By his own admission, Barack Obama has been closely allied with Jeremiah Wright for twenty years. “He is like part of my family,” said the senator. The pastor presided over Obama’s wedding, he baptized his children, he prayed with Obama and counseled him about running for president. The title of his book, The Audacity of Hope, was taken from one of Wright’s speeches.
Are we to believe that this kind of rhetoric and philosophy is a sudden shock to the senator? Are we to believe that he never knew that his minister had fostered these views before? Are we to believe that Barack Obama, a bright and intuitive man, has never been aware that the preacher professed such racism and hatred of country? It’s no wonder that Mrs. Obama has never felt proud to be an American, until her husband reached the cusp of a presidency.
Are we to believe that the senator and the preacher — so close — never shared private moments discussing race and these negative feelings toward the United States? And are we to believe that Senator Obama is utterly ignorant of that church’s racist philosophy? If not, why has he been a loyal and very prominent attendee for twenty years?
Instead of concentrating on Jeremiah Wright’s stupid remarks, why isn’t the media asking Senator Obama, “Why were you ever a member of this church to begin with?”
Are we to believe that Senator Obama was not aware of the close relationship his minister has with Louis Farrakhan? That Wright, in fact, traveled with Farrakhan to Lybia in the 1980’s to meet with Muammar Gaddafi, another hater of America. That Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation of Islam, is well known as an unabashed racist and Jew hater who despises this country.
Farrakhan has repeatedly made hate-filled statements targeting Jews, whites, America, and homosexuals. He has called whites “blue-eyed devils” and the “anti-Christ.” He has described Jews as “bloodsuckers” who control the government. Farrakhan has opined of Caucasians: “White people are potential humans…they haven’t evolved yet.”
Yet, in 2007, Obama’s church bestowed a lifetime achievement award upon Louis Farrakhan, calling him a great man, and “one of the giants of the African-American religious experience.”
Are we to believe that Senator Obama — with his brains — had no idea of the tight relationship his church shared with Farrakhan over the years? If my church embraced the likes of a David Duke, or an Adolf Hitler, I’d have resigned in a nano-second.
Now that the heat is on, Senator Obama can distance himself all he wants from his minister and the Anti-american/racist views of his church. Too late. Twenty years of history is undeniable.
At the most, this long term relationship is a red flag for all American voters, of all races and religions, who decry racism and bigotry. It brings deep suspicion that there is more to the candidate for president than meets the eye, and one wonders who the real man is behind closed doors. There is definitely more to Barack Obama than that bright silver tongue and smooth charisma.
At the very least, the relationship suggests a lack of judgement and an insensitivity to views that are repugnant to the vast majority of Americans who are not bigots or anti-semites.
In Dreams of My Father, Obama’s first book, there is a poignant moment from the senator’s childhood which relates very well to this issue. At the age of ten, living in Hawaii, he was only one of two black children in his class and very aware of feeling different. He befriended the other black child, a girl named Coretta. They were frolicking one day in a playground when a group of kids approached and began taunting them. Here is the exact text from page 61 written by Obama:
“Coretta has a boyfriend. Coretta has a boyfriend.
The chants grew louder and a few more kids circled us.”She’s not my g-girlfriend,” I stammered. I looked to Coretta for some assistance but she just
stood there looking down at the ground.
“Coretta’s got a boyfriend. Why don’t you kiss her mister boyfriend?
“I’m not her boyfriend,” I shouted. I ran up to Coretta and gave her a slight shove; she staggered back and looked at me, but still said nothing. “Leave me alone,”
I shouted again.
In the following paragraph, Obama writes:
My act of betrayal bought me some room from the other children, and like Coretta, I was mostly left alone.
The senator can tell us that he doesn’t approve of his church’s long term relationship with Louis Farrakhan. Just words. He can tell us he doesn’t agree with — or even renounces — some of the vile remarks Reverend Wright has preached in his sermons. Again, just words. He can tell us he doesn’t subscribe to the racist philosophy of his church. But he is still there.
Today, those kids are surrounding that little boy — Barry Obama — again, prodding, questioning, even taunting. But in 2008 they have a name: The American electorate. Much like he did to little Coretta to gain approval of his image to others, he has given a “slight push” to Reverend Wright, to satisfy the media. But it doesn’t change who he is. It doesn’t change twenty years of reverse racism, of anti-American attitudes, and the honoring of Louis Farrakhan and his likes.
Black racism is no more excusable than white racism.
It was Benjamin Franklin who said, “He that lies with dogs, shall rise up with fleas”
60 Responses to “Obama And The Pastor – A Deeper Problem”
, on March 18th, 2008 at 2:04 pm Said:
Thank you Marshall!
I now have your well researched blog for
use against a near certain mass media suggestion that we “Just move on,” now that
Obama’s silver tounge has addressed the issue in his major speech today.
My opinion can be kept short: Obama has
demostrated a lack of judgement, so serious
as to make alarming; the prospect of a
President Obama holding peace negoations with our sworn enemies, who have sworn to
destroy America and our way of life.
Obama may or may not believe our enemies
really mean to destroy us. I DO!
I think his goose is cooked!!
, on March 18th, 2008 at 2:14 pm Said:
I brought up the question of Rev. Wright’s remarks at Sunday’s service. Our minister saw nothing surprising in Wright’s remarks, and didn’t think his attitude was unusual for a black church. There was no condemnation whatsoever, which surprised me.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pm Said:
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, on March 18th, 2008 at 2:34 pm Said:
It’s frightening to think this phony is a well-supported candidate to be President of the United States. As your article suggests, what he says in his speaches and what he really believes seem to be diametrically opposed.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 2:41 pm Said:
You seem to be one sided. Why have you not questioned McCain’s wanted support from Pat Robertson, Hagee, Parsley and Falwell who have sprouted rants accusing 9/11 being payback for our culture accepting gays, feminists and atheist as well as Hurricane Katrina being the wrath of God for the same. Parsley has said that ALL Muslins should be exterminated. I certainly don’t agree with some of Wrights statements but you have to admit the U.S. has a lot of blood on our hands. If I was a African American adult in the 60s I would have the same feelings. Both you the the MSM are giving McCain a pass. Your point would be well taken by this writer if you called him out.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 2:47 pm Said:
Mary L. Powell
Is all this posturing assuring John McCain the presidency?
, on March 18th, 2008 at 2:49 pm Said:
Who is Art Horn??? Where did this guy come from? I cam’t believe that this guy actually believes what he writes…..Obamas preacher and advisor is on the record saying God Damn America, what else is there?? America, love it or leave it, but we don’t need an anti-American leading it…..Where is the national press??
, on March 18th, 2008 at 3:01 pm Said:
In America today, it’s considered socially acceptable for African-American leaders to make racially biased comments, hold racially exclusive events and fundraisers and NOT be considered racist. What’s fair is fair. When then candidate George Bush visited Bob Jones University in 2000, the media coverage was astoundingly negative and African-American leaders were calling for his ouster from the election process. Now, regarding Wright’s comments, we’re being told that the sound bites are being played “out-of-context” I defy any rational American to provide me with ANY context in which it’s OK to accuse the government of creating the HIV virus to kill off “people of color”
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, on March 18th, 2008 at 3:23 pm Said:
I have been making a concerted effort to NOT forward emails which provide information that seems hurtful or possibly untrue. Frank, this is one of the few that I HAVE forwarded to those who I believe will give it thoughtful consideration. Thank you for an interesting article.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 3:36 pm Said:
I think the real shock of the story is how many of the congregation exaulted agreement and praise with Reverand Wright in a year like 2008! This seems to be an indicator of how far race relations have really progressed. Isnt Oprah Winfrey a member?
Didnt the inept Mayor Nagin infer that the
government blew-up the dikes around the Ninth Ward in New Orleans. What kind of thinking is this among educated people?
This election should prove very interesting.
Is this the best America can do for such an important job as President of the United States. Two Marxist-Socialists and a Liberal Republican?
, on March 18th, 2008 at 3:42 pm Said:
Why don’t you swift boat it Marshall.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 4:17 pm Said:
You’ve done a good job of research. When this matter first came up, I questioned why Obama would be a member of a church where the minister spews hatred, especially hatred of the United States. I had not been much sold on Obama for President anyway, and especially not now with his long suborning of such hatred.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 4:18 pm Said:
If it were up to me, which it is not, I would like to write this type of information on all of the candidates.
It is a shame we do not have good bunch from whom to pick but I do not believe we do.
As for Obama, I remember well a few black friends I had in school who were not racist. Living on the “wrong side of the tracks” when growing up gave me a different perspective on people in general since the railroad employed all races and religions.
You are right to condemn any person who is running for office in this great country of ours that does not come up to the expectations of the constituents. I stand behind you completely as I have many times in the past. It is time for the truth to come out before it is too late.
The problem lays in the laxadazial attitude of many of our citizens.
Thanks for having the courage to tell it like it is.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 4:27 pm Said:
It is so vividly apparent a blind person can see that Obama must immediately go away. It is impossible to even think any sane American could even still be standing by him after all of this info has surfaced about his background. Can anyone even begine to imagine what is hidden away in the shadows that the liberal media is not even talking about? America is in bad enough trouble on almost every front, and the American public does not need this type of person anywhere near the drivers seat. Can you even begin to imagine what a man like this could, or possibly would, do as Commander in Chief of the most powerful military in the world after receiving advise from his radical preacher???…probably make Hitler look like a 80 year old Sunday School Teacher. Futhermore, think seriously about Hillary in the same position!?!?! Frightening is it not?…and McCaine??,…. well what can you say?
America has no viable choices in the upcoming election for President…. It is time to throw out all these bumbs and start this process over again. The rank-n-file Americans need to get their heads out of the sand…or where ever else they have their heads stuck…and start to take these events serious.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 4:43 pm Said:
The media lacks the moral fiber and integrity to take on this issue. If you are white or the media you cannot take the blacks to task for fear of being labeled a racist. His rhetoric in responding to criticism in asociating with Wright struck me as saying: Hey, He’s my man and I’ll stand by him. I agree with his teachings as I maintain my association with him and his church. I’m an anglo and walked away from a church (major denimination) my family had be involved with since its inception because a schism was not in keeping wwith the church I grew up in. Obama could have done the same. By his actions I perceive him to support bigotry
, on March 18th, 2008 at 5:44 pm Said:
I don’t know who Art Horn is either, but I agree with him. I thought Obama’s speach in Phila was great. I’m still not sure who gets my vote, Obama or Clinton, but it won’t be McCain.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 6:13 pm Said:
Marshall, thank you, again, for giving us the information we need to have to make an informed decision.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 6:20 pm Said:
This is from the Huffington Post. Most people will recognize Rev Jim Wallis as a calmer moderate Christian intellectual:
“It has simmered throughout this campaign, and now race has exploded into the center of the media debate about the presidential race. Just when a black political leader is calling us all to a new level of responsibility, hope, and unity; the old and divisive rhetoric of race from both blacks and whites is rearing its ugly head to bring down the best chance we have had for years of finally moving forward.
And that is indeed the real issue here. A black man is closer to possibly becoming president than ever before in American history. And this black man is not even running as “a black man” but as a new kind of political leader who believes the country is ready for a new kind of politics. But a new kind of politics and a new face for political leadership is deeply threatening to all the forces that represent the old kind of politics in America. And all the rising focus on race in this election campaign has one purpose and one purpose alone — to stop Barack Obama from becoming President of the United States.
Buzz up!on Yahoo!Barack Obama should win or lose his Party’s nomination or the presidency based on the positions he takes regarding the great issues of our time and his capacity to lead the country and America’s role in the world. He must not win or lose because of the old politics of race in America. That would be a tragedy for all of us.
The cable news stations and talk radio are playing carefully selected excerpts of the most potentially incendiary statements from Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s fiery sermons, the retiring pastor of Barack Obama and his family’s home Trinity Church in Chicago. Obama, while affirming the tremendous work his church has done in his city and around the nation, has condemned the most controversial remarks of his pastor. But the whole controversy points to the enormous gap in understanding between the mainstream black community in America and the experience of many white Americans. And that is what we are going to have to heal if we are ever to move forward.
Here is what I mean.
There is a deep well of both frustration and anger in the African American community in these United States of America. And those feelings are borne of the concrete experience of real oppression, discrimination, and blocked opportunities that most of America’s white citizens take for granted. African Americans across the spectrum of income and success will speak personally to those feelings of frustration and anger, when white people are willing to listen. But usually we are not. In 2008, to still not comprehend or seek to understand the reality of black frustration and anger, is to be in a state of white denial which, very sadly, is where many white Americans are.
The black church pulpit has historically been a place of prophetic truth-telling about the realities that black people experience in their own country. Indeed, the black church has often been the only place where such truths are ever told. And, black preachers have had the pastoral task of nurturing the spirits of people who feel beaten down week after week. Strong and prophetic words from black church pulpits are often a source of comfort and affirmation for black congregations. The truth is that many white Americans would indeed feel uncomfortable with the rhetoric of many black preachers from many black churches all across the country.
But if you look beyond the grainy black and white clips of the dashiki clad Rev. Wright and the angry black male voice (all designed to provoke stereotypes and fear) to actually listen to what the words are saying about America being run by “rich white people” while blacks have cabs speeding by them, and about American misdeeds around the world, it’s hard to disagree with many of the facts presented. It’s rather the angry tone of Wright’s comments that provides the offense and the controversy.
Ironically, a new generation of black Americans is now eager and ready to move beyond the frustration and anger to a new experience of opportunity and hope. And nobody represents that shift more than Barack Obama. There is a generational shift occurring within the black community itself, between an older generation who are sometimes perceived to be stuck in the politics of victimization and grievance, and a younger generation who believe that opportunity and progress are now possible–not by ignoring, but by being committed to actually changing the facts of oppression and discrimination.
Barack Obama represents that hope of dealing with the substance of the issues of injustice while at the same time articulating the politics of hope, and even the possibility of racial unity. Obama’s attraction to many who are white, especially a new generation, demonstrates the promise of a new racial politics in America. But to be a leader for a new generation of black Americans, Barack Obama had to be firmly rooted in the black church tradition, where the critique of white America, the sustenance of the African American community, and God’s promise for the future are all clearly articulated. That’s why he began attending Trinity Church where he was converted to Jesus Christ in the black liberationist tradition of, among others, Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
So it would be a great tragedy if the old rhetoric of black frustration and anger were to now hurt Barack Obama, who has become the best hope of beginning to heal that very frustration and anger. Obama has never chosen to talk about race in the way that Rev. Jeremiah Wright does on the video clips that keep playing, and indeed has never played “the race card” at any time in this election. It’s been his opponents that have, especially the right-wing conservative media machine that wants America to believe he is secretly a Muslim and is from a “racist” church.
This most recent controversy over race just demonstrates how enormous the gap still is between whites and blacks in America–in our experience and our capacity to understand one another. May God help us to heal that divide and truly bless America.”
Jim Wallis is the author of The Great Awakening, Editor-in-Chief of Sojourners and blogs at http://www.godspolitics.com.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 6:45 pm Said:
One cannot possibly believe that 20 years of hearing this rant does not shape one’s opinion or leave a lasting impression–A person under this influence is seriously impaired–Anyone who listens to this “Hate America” should not hold any publically elected office, much less the Highest Office of this land. This is a decisive time in our our History–Was the Constitution so “tainted” and “flawed”?? The Facist-Socialist Ideology is making another attempt to rule the world–Remember, Hitler was an elected official in the beginng–What happened after that?
, on March 18th, 2008 at 6:46 pm Said:
In defense of Mr. Art Horn- here is an American, a FREE American expressing his opinion to this subject matter and he is ripped for it? What is this? America, the Land of Double Standards? Isn’t this the kind of thing we, as voters, are trying to eliminate from our government and our people? Why is it all right for one to state an opinion, but not another? Is it because Mr. Horn’s opinion didn’t agree with yours? Don’t fall into the trap of being a hypocrite- this country has seen far too much of that. If the American majority is the people you surround yourself with and no one else, than this country is worse off than I could imagine. My son is in the Army, as we speak, fighting for your right to express your opinion, so I can express my opinion, and Mr. Horn can express his opinion. Be very careful not to become the very same thing you are pointing out in others–a mirror is a humbling thing.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 7:30 pm Said:
I have no problem with Dean defending Mr. Horn but I must say I am far more deeply concerened with defending America First.
Here is a youtube from a Reagan Democrat
with 52 seconds of Obama’s plans for our
National Defense. I’d call Obama’s plans for defense a clear national suicide plan.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 9:24 pm Said:
Sark, former US Marine
When the truth comes out I would hope that all of America will truely see that politics is not the color of the skin or the gender of the sex but the honesty of the person and the character of the individual. I doubt that either person in the party with two candidates can claim either of the above. If we can not believe the other candidate and the truth that he deliveres in his speach and the character of his being and the care that he has for his country then we had best prepare for war, here on our home soil, because I do not think paraying for peace will get the job done. GOD BLESS, YES BLESS AMERICA. Senator John McCain tells it like it is, not necessarly what we want to hear, but he is honest in his belief. He has been there and he does not want to fight another war, here on our soil. If either Senator from the other party is elected, I am not sure that they have that same interest in mind.
, on March 18th, 2008 at 9:32 pm Said:
Who am I? I am a white American Christian senior citizen who has served my country who believes that all candidates should be called out on their supporters actions. That includes Senator McCain who’s bigoted so called Christian supporters blame gays, feminists, liberals and pro-choice people for 9/11 and Katrina. I am not a supporter of Obama or Clinton. I feel they are bought out by the drug, insurance and defense industries. I feel McCain is a war monger. I supported Kucinich until he dropped out and now will support Nader who’s values equal my Christian and family values. Hope this helps those who questions who I am.
, on March 19th, 2008 at 4:20 am Said:
I often wonder about “double standards”. Why is it that we can have “black scholarship” programs, “NAACP” and “African American studies programs?” when if an attempt to have “Asian Scholarship Programs” or “Jewish Scholarship Programs” or “Wiccan Scholarship Programs” everyone’s ire would be upfront Again, it is the polarization of American that will be our downfall. Like the Sunni’s and Shiates, like the Serbs and Croats, like the Christian and Muslims during the Crusades, or in Darfur; if we continue this dangerous polarization we will meet with doom. I do not think Obama is a contributor to the doomsday philosophy.
Respectfully submitted: Laura
, on March 19th, 2008 at 7:22 am Said:
I still support Hillary Clinton. She concerns herself with providing health care for every citizen, she wants to end the war in a timely manner, and she has proven willingness to tackle hard problems and win — in both her career and private life. Conversely, McCain who has seen war at it’s worst, appears to revel in it’s inevitability, as did his father and grandfather. Obama emerges with an interesting new slant on quelling or, hopefully ending, generations of racial inequity in America. But, in my view, not as our President! I support Hillary.
, on March 19th, 2008 at 9:43 am Said:
Dear Marshall, Your analysis is on the mark. I am not satisfied with Obama’s explanation & embrace of his Pastor who so hatefully vilified America & those of other races. The recent Sun-Sentinel analysis was much too kind to him. His declaration of todays racial disparities, of legalized discrimination preventing blacks from owning property, joining unions, becoming police officers & firefighters and accumulating wealth topass on to future generations is simply wrong and untrue. Although the overall speech was good, it leaves a lot to be desired. His kid glove treatment by the media is not being given to the other candidates.
, on March 19th, 2008 at 10:43 am Said:
Barak O’Bama is just another political hack phoney with a silver tongue. He should aspire to the teachings of Dr. Martin Luther King instead of Pastor Wright.Reverand King preached “judging people not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character” —-a character Mr. O’bama and his mentor clearly lack.
, on March 19th, 2008 at 2:54 pm Said:
Marshall: You are right on target with your article on Sen. Obama. Nobody can tell me that in a twenty year relationship that Obama and the “Pastor” NEVER ONCE discussed the pastors views about America, white people, or Jewish people. If Obama told this BS to a donkey he’d be swiftly kicked in his suspect fibbing ass! While America is at war, we owe it to our kids who are fighting this war NOT to turn over “top clearance” to a man who presents in the least – a risk (until we know ALL THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT HIM) and at most – the possible dissemination of information about our defense systems. I vote McCain or even that Clinton but not Mr. “Risky” the smoooth-talking dude Obama who has truly yet to be defined beyond a reasonable doubt.
, on March 19th, 2008 at 3:50 pm Said:
How can you trust ANY politician what he/she says, anywhere in the world?
There are always two sides to the coin.
Obama is VERY articulate, a good speaker. His behavior in speeches remind me of some speeches of the leaders of the world who I do not dare mention due to grief and devastation they brought to the people of this planet.
, on March 19th, 2008 at 4:03 pm Said:
Now we know who Art HOrn is. A Dennis Kuchinik, Ralph Nader supporter. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and support whoever you think is the right candidate to run this country. However, when you can’t see that the race baiting Rev. Wright is injecting race into this campaign, it is time for you to take a nap! Obama will sink or swim by his positions and rhetoric from now until the nominating convention. He gas a kibg wat ti go and we will see how it plays out.
John McCain has been there and done that, who else can say that? Certainly not Kuchinik, Obama or Nader….They all talk a good game, but can they really play in the same arena? I think not. God Bless America and all who support her.
, on March 19th, 2008 at 5:35 pm Said:
I have a hard time believing anything Pretty Boy Barack says.
, on March 19th, 2008 at 6:34 pm Said:
What has McCain done? NOTHING for Joe average.
How can he? He’s a republican. Involved in the Keating scandal. Sure he’s a hero for his heroic stay at the Hanoi Hilton. But that’s it! He’s Bush’s lackey
Nader has saved more lives through his consumerism activities than any person alive. Kucinich saved Muny Light for Cleveland which afford residents cheaper electricity than the private utility. Also he doesn’t take corporate money like the 3 main candidates and he isn’t afraid to speak out against his own party. I agree about Obama. He has showed me nothing.
, on March 19th, 2008 at 6:34 pm Said:
A generation ago someone said that 11 AM on Sunday is the most segregated hour in the week. And yesterday while discussing the Wright quote and Obama speech, a TV commentator said it again. Last Sunday morning when I looked around the auditorium at my church, I saw that it was still true – in that place anyway. And if I raise the subject of race, our minister says “they” don’t go for the kind of mostly talk/minimal music services “we” prefer. Cliches over and over again.
But what about McCain’s church? Is it lily-white? Or Clinton’s? (Probably not – if Bill has anything to do with it!)
Overall, not much has changed in America – except that today a non-white person is a serious candidate for president. We are overdue for a real, no-holds-barred national discussion of race relations in America and if the Obama candidacy is the trigger for it, that’s a positive outcome, whether he wins or loses.
, on March 20th, 2008 at 6:28 am Said:
WE ALL BETTER WAKE UP AND SEE WHATS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY WITH THE FAR LEFT HATE OUT THERE. WHATS WRONG WITH US AS AMERICANS, ARE WE BLIND? ENOUGH IS ENOUGH WITH THE LEFT DO GOODERS. MARSH, WRITE A BOOK ABOUT ALL THE DUMB AMERICANS THAT DO NOT SEE THIS UGLY MESS. THE DECLINE IN MORAL ATTITUDESM THE INTERNET UGLY, UGLY.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
A PROUD AMERICAN.
GLORIA SGRO DISANTO
, on March 20th, 2008 at 9:33 am Said:
The relationship between Barack Obama and Pastor Jeremiah Wright should be examined for the level of indoctrination on Obama by Wright’s anti-Americanism. The question is how much the indoctrination would influence Obama’s thinking and agenda if elected?
, on March 20th, 2008 at 9:55 am Said:
Hi Marshall, Glad to see our class involved. Proves we’re not too old to care about our country.
My question is, how long will we have to pay for the slave trade that happened years before we were born?
My family was poor, but proud to work to pay for the necessities. I wasen’t taught to hate the “rich white people” because they had more money than they needed, nor was I taught that they needed to “give” me their money. I was taught that if I wanted to be rich,I had to work for it.
I didn’t go to college, yet was able to
do quite well in life. Was that because I was white? or willing to work?
, on March 20th, 2008 at 10:01 am Said:
Feels good to read comments from people I know. I’ve read extensively about Obama and still feel that I know little about who he really is and what he’s all about. That’s uncomfortable to me.
, on March 20th, 2008 at 10:43 am Said:
M . Wiley
Marshall, I usually share your thoughts on many things. I don’t totally agree with your thoughts thoughts on this issue. But I fall towards Ray Van Ors’Dell that put as forth as direct as the issue we now discuss.
Not much else to say, other than you know me personlly, you know that I am black, and I close with this:
Don’t judge me by the anger that my great, great grand father who expresses anger caused by the, then, American society tha caused him pain for seeking a job, food and ultimatell freedom. I can not share the same diversity as Mr. Obama, but my grand father 3 times remove was white.
, on March 20th, 2008 at 1:00 pm Said:
Since moving to the “boonies” of Central FL, this Jewish lady has been exposed to bible-thumping Baptist services and an occasional black church revival. I must say, the hell/fire/damnation I felt spewing from more than one Christian preacher left me patting down my hair just in case my “horns” popped up spontaneously. There’s enough prejudice and fear and ignorance out there in all camps. I still am leaning to support of Barak Obama because he is young, articulate, intelligent, and frankly speaking, will look more like the emerging face of America in years to come. I don’t find that scary at all. And I’m pushing 60! Hillary is tainted by too much baggage and ties to insurance companies. John McCain is too old. Did you catch his gaffes the other day while visiting the midEast? Joe Lieberman had to bail him out. Not reassuring. Re the Rev. Wright -a loose cannon for sure, but I give Obama more credit than to be his lap dog and lackey. Check out this NPR link to read and listen to why black anger still festers and simmers below the surface. Keep up the great dialog. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88708253
, on March 21st, 2008 at 9:32 am Said:
Lise Hampton Faircloth
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, on March 21st, 2008 at 11:06 am Said:
George Bush, our current decider, said “It is nothing but a Goddamned piece of paper”. What was he referring to? just the CONSTITUTION !! Thats right. A reporter had suggested that some action Bush was taking was unConstitutional, and Bush made it very clear what he believes…just a ‘ Goddamned piece of paper”.
The right wing loonies like McCaine court the Hageee’s ( Israel can do no wrong, ever )..and Parsley ( kill ALL Muslims ) and of course the scummy Pat Robertson and Flawell of course get the nod as ‘ good ‘ preachers.
Obama is not a well qualified man…neither is Billary or any of the others, with the exception of Ron Paul.McCaine wants to BOMB Iran, no doubt based on the same pack of total lies that the Bush cabal used to get us into Iraq. Where are the WMD’s? In the inagination of the war mongers, thats where.
This nation is going to hell in a handbasket…prices out of control, rights being swept away..and a useless congress and senate giving the Cheney gang all it demands…the end is near. Does it mater who wins? Not really. Obama and Hillary are both willing to drag out this ‘ war ‘ crap forever to support the big money..and McCaine, the mental case, wants us to be in Iraq for ‘ another hundred years’, which of course was the plan all along.
I predict that in 5 years, no longer, we will see the death of the doolar and the introduction of the AMERO, which is already printed and waiting…the dissolving of the borders between Mexico and Canada, making us an American Union, just like the Euro’s have now. And, a police state as well with the government watching and listening to us all.
If McCaine gets the job, we will see a continuation of the failed and destructive policies that have ruined America in the last 8 years as well as the corporate graft and crimes we are seeing now..McCaine is a nutjob, a kook, a bad tempered failed politician who slavers over the thought of endless military caused death and theft of oil and property worldwide.
Obama could do no worse…Hillary could do no better…we have NO prospects that are in the interest of this nation. It is all over folks…we are being destroyed from within. We still have not exposed the truth abouit 9-11 and 6 years later Bush is about to escape justice forever and run to his 100,000 acres in Paraguay he just bought, where he cannot be extradited.
We have BIG problems in this nation…too big to handle any more..and it is all on purpose. This is not an accident: The crumbling dollar, gas prices outrageous while the big shots make hundreds of millions in bonuses for gouging us all. We are seeing the intentional destruction of the middle class and the ruination of the American dream..and for what?
So the global NWO players can finish the plan. read the PNAC plan for full details. Ask who SIBEL EDMONDS IS…and if you think that we have patriots and real Americans in high office, you are wrong. This nation is being shredded right in front of us and intentionally so. The enemy is within the gates.
Forget what some preacher says and concentrate on what is happening to the very core of our country: it is turning to dust just like the core steel in the Towers on 9-11….and it takes a lot of energy to turn steel to dust. That energy is coming from the inside, and AIPAC, and will swallow us alive if we do not turn it around, and fast.
, on March 23rd, 2008 at 10:26 am Said:
Marshall, your article is logical, and worth forwarding.
As a whole, many Americans were shocked to find out what really goes on in some of the black churches. Whoever heard of “Black Liberation Theology” before now? Thanks to Obama and his pastor, the truth comes out about the bigotry that continues to permeate the black community. They continue to keep themselves in bondage and shame on their leaders who keep that fire burning. I appreciated your ending of your article. Obama’s actions are reminiscent of those you quoted from the book.
You are right on, it does not change twenty years of reverse racism, of anti-American attitudes, and the honoring of Louis Farrakhan and his likes who are extremist and dangerous types. Racism is not excusable under any circumstances.
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, on March 27th, 2008 at 2:18 pm Said:
Northern Virginia Voters Chime In washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/09/11/VI2008091102914.html
, on September 12th, 2008 at 8:41 am Said:
Cindy McCain’s battle against prescription drug addiction has been part of her public speaking points for years, but a deeper investigation reveals the far-reaching consequences of her actions washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/11/AR2008091103928.html
, on September 12th, 2008 at 8:42 am Said:
Candidates Promise National-Service Initiatives washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/11/AR2008091103788.html
, on September 12th, 2008 at 8:44 am Said: