The attorney for Barack Obama, in a New Jersey Courtroom, has argued that the birth certificate produced in 2011 alleging to be an authentic document, is irrelevant to his qualifications to be president.

     Many forensic examiners of that birth certificate have declared it to be a forgery, for a myriad of reasons. Those findings are shared by Arizona Sheriff, Joe Arpaio which also revealed grave doubts about its authenticity.

     Some folks don’t want to hear any more about the “birther” issue. Eyes roll “oh no, not again” as blind followers of Obama cannot and will not accept reality. But they should pay close attention.

     Neither will you see this information in the mainstream media – not yet anyway – as pundits and reporters meander along the campaign trail portraying Obama as a legitimate candidate discussing nothing but economic issues, and completely disregarding the propensity of evidence that he is not, and ever has been, eligible to hold the office of President of the United States.

     Why is this important? Because it would be a clear and deliberate violation of the U.S. Constitution, which cannot and should never be treated as trash.  It also tells much about the man and what lengths he will resort to for this enormous position of power inside the U.S. government, for whatever the motive, and that he is unequivocally dishonest and not to be trusted. Our national security may be at risk.

     Did it ever occur to any of the Obama supporters, that if the genuine birth certificate was so easily released in May of 2011, why hadn’t he done so anytime during the three long years when the controversy raged on. And, why did he spend over a million dollars on legal fees fighting to prevent the release of that document?

     Answer: Because it never existed in the first place.

     Qualifications for president in the U.S. Constitution were written specifically to ensure that any person holding the highest office in the land, would never have divided loyalties, or even the perception of same, that he/she was a true, one-hundred percent American, that America and its constitution, and its people, come first before all others in the world.

     As we have watched Mr. Obama pander to outside global interests, particularly the Islamic world, it is apparent that divided loyalties certainly do exist. He has loyalties to Kenya. He had loyalties to Indonesia. He and his cabinet and his upper military staff, have acquiesced to the United Nations and international law as superseding the law in the U. S.Constitution. Such is the case with decisions to use military force in foreign lands without ever consulting congress, yet getting approval. See the video link below, as Obama’s Secretary of Defense ineloquently dodges questions about violating constitution when questioned by congress about who authorizes going to war.

     Then , there is the question of engaging in assassination of U.S.citizens, however criminal, in foreign lands. Many governments have likely engaged in such activity in clandestine ways, but never have I ever heard of a president authorizing an assassination in a foreign country.

     Can’t anyone see what is happening here?

     Incredibly as it sounds, we have a president who has signed into law, a National Defense Authorization Act which gives unprecedented power to Obama and theU.S.government in arbitrarily deciding who is and is not a threat to the nation, with authority to detain and jail American citizens indefinitely without hearings or Habeas Corpus.  (Check out the link, below) I am often at odds with the ACLU, but they are absolutely correct in their opposition to Barack Obama on this one.

     Where’s the outrage? Where’s the condemnation from the media?

     Politics aside, never before in our nation’s history, has the validity of a presidency been so deeply doubted by so many. (that includes many democrats and independents, as well as republicans) This doesn’t even address the issue of his social security number, his selective service status, his absence of transparency concerning his college records, and so on.

     Now, questions are eking out once more concerning the fraudulent birth certificate, which will eventually and rightfully rise to the surface. It isn’t going away, because the issue is simply unresolved.

     Mr. Obama would serve this country and his party well, to withdraw his nomination from the ballot for president within the next few weeks, giving the Democrats enough time to muster a new candidate before election time. That way, he can resign a la Richard Nixon with a smooth transition of power, leaving the helm to Joe Biden, an undisputed American. Otherwise, it appears inevitable that a constitutional crisis will loom down the road. Being deemed ineligible, every decision Obama has made, every appointment and every law signed by this president will be rendered null and void, plummeting the United States into a pit of legal entanglements and crises from which we may not recover.

     It’s only a matter of time. Sure, we have to focus on economy and national security issues, but those issues will all be trumped like an elephant walking on an ant, if impeachment charges reveal that Mr. Obama was never legal to begin with. Millions of “birthers” who are intelligent, taxpaying Americans already believe that.

     A national trauma of unprecedented proportions might be salvaged, if Obama drops out now.

      Now Obama’s birth certificate is ‘irrelevant’

          Indefinite Detention, Endless Worldwide War and the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act

     Panetta suggests OK from UN more important than Congress Approval  – YouTube


Sheriff Joe Arpaio suggests Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery – Political Hotsheet – CBS News


  1. Royam April 23, 2012 at 2:46 pm #

    One of my severest criticisms of our legal/legislative process is that when it comes to politics you can make some of the wildest and most outlandish claims and never held to account. I wish the legislators would someday possess the integrity and love of country to pass legislation that any public statement made during a political campaign be subjected to legal accountability. If you can’t present indisputable documentation to prove what you say then you should be subject to legal liability. I am just an average citizen and do not have the ability to prove or disprove political allegations. It seems that he who can lie the best, wins! Its heartbreaking that in spite of all the sacrifices and blood that has been spent for this country, this is what the beneficiaries of those sacrifices have become.

  2. Rachel April 23, 2012 at 3:04 pm #

    Right on, again, Marshall. As soon as he resigns, we can arrest him and try him for fraud, forgery and high treason! Then we can begin to untangle the horrendous quagmire of legalities which will surface when the illegality of his eligibility to hold office finally hits the forefront.

    Normal contract law follows the principle that if a person does not hold the legal authority to make decisions on behalf of others, all contracts, agreements, etc. are null and void. What a mess we will have on our hands!

  3. Alice April 23, 2012 at 3:55 pm #

    Thank you soooooooo much for this wonderfully-written article! I have made copies of it to share with the oldsters I know who don’t have a computer. But I would like to send it in to the 9-12 group, if you have not already done that. I would also like to send it to many others who are not 9-12ers. You have articulated what many of us think in such a logical way. God bless you Marshall. I do not have a facebook or twitter acct., and always felt it was something I didn’t have time for but I tried to give this a thumbs up, but couldn’t without setting up an acct., and I just don’t have time today for that. But I really, truly appreciate your writing. Thank you very much. Alice Kreitz

    • Anonymous April 24, 2012 at 3:15 am #

      Your a wise lady Alice,…..

      to avoid online info overload but still seek to help inform your friends
      in the 9-12 group. I have a few friends, Marshall among them, who
      possess the self-disipline to manage a facebook and not squander
      their time. I am not so blessed with such time-management disipline.

      I recently placed my facebook in archive status, as I was spending so
      much time preaching to the choir, as to suffer sleep deprivation. I had
      maintained close to 5,000 fb friends for well over a year. I have now
      opened a new fb account, for family & friends social sharing only, with
      no politics or demominational religious bickering on that fb page. I
      remain modestly active in trying to share political wisdom, via email,
      this excellent blog of Marshall’s & a few other blogs. I am confortable
      with my new non-political facebook, currently with 101 fb friends.

      You might give such a dedicated social sharing facebook accout a try
      Alice, as it is a wonderfully effieient platform for sharing photos and for
      group communication. That is of course up to you. I leave you now,
      with a 31 second youtube, that I hope you will share with your 9-12
      group friends.

      Michelle Obama Admits Kenya is Barack Hussein Obama’s Home Country

  4. Terry April 23, 2012 at 4:00 pm #

    Marshall, I love to read your comments. Many I agree with. I’m not wanting to get into the dispute about the birth certificate, other than to comment on one point that was made.
    ……ensure that the president would have no divided loyalities……or perception of…..etc.
    Unfortunately, being born in this country does not “ensure” any of these qualities.

    • Rachel April 24, 2012 at 11:52 am #

      And why won’t you get into the dispute about the birth certificate, Terry? Is it not important enough to warrant a thorough reading and understanding of the proof that Sheriff Joe Arpaio has provided for us? What are you afraid of? Don’t forget, bad things happen when good people do and say nothing. Sticking your head in the sand on this one is equivalent to saying it’s all ok….so if that’s the case….don’t whine when this all does hit the fan!

  5. ROBERT L. ELLIOTT April 23, 2012 at 4:21 pm #


  6. Donald April 23, 2012 at 4:34 pm #


    It has always been a mystery to me how 52% of the voting public could elect a president about which they knew almost nothing. That is compounded by the fact that many people will vote for him again rather than admit they made a really bad mistake the first time.

    Besides the question of citizenship, I wanted to know how a man who came out of poverty and no real job could afford to go to Harvard Law School, which is very, very expensive. The other questions is how can a man who never had a job, other than community organizer, which pays an annual salary of about $31,000 per year, become a multi-millionaire? Very few widely successful professional writers make anything near that kind of money.

    I had a friend who died five years ago who was one of those widely successful novelists who sold many of his novels to the movie industry. At death he still was a man of very modest means.

    There is still much we do not know about our president.

  7. Lee Boyland April 23, 2012 at 6:04 pm #

    Well said.

    I addressed this and other related issues in my 2009 columns:

  8. reality April 23, 2012 at 6:16 pm #

    Unbelievable! President Eisenhower never spoke up about Joe McCarthy, because he said words to the effect that it would lower the prestige and honor of the presidency to give credence to such wild-eyed, crazy claims. Ike’s own letters to his brother complain about what Extremists have cost him, in health, income, etc. All of you STILL claiming Obama was not born in Hawaii, are bringing our country down, and making us look ridiculous in the eyes of the world. His mom is dead. The newspaper announced his birth. Hawaiian officials have said the birth certificate is real. The Shroud of Turin has been proven to be a Fake, but people still believe, and they still flock to Lourdes. You can say any lie about anyone, and keep at it over and over, but that does not make it true. If only you insisted on this kind of investigation of the horrible murders of thousands of Americans on 9/11. You’re all like the big powerful horse, who sees a tiny piece of paper blow across his path, and he totally panics and throws his rider. This is what’s destroying America and funding Terrorism and Crime, all over the world.

    • reeves April 23, 2012 at 10:06 pm #

      I have seen the images of the birth certificate, and the watermark does not follow the curl of the paper. Unless someonr can explain that to me I will remain sceptical. Also I heard that the records for his mother entering Hawaii are missing, so there is no proof she was there when she gave birth. The newspaper listing is something that was commonly done by grandparents when a grandchild was born, so you can find many birth listings in old newspapers that if you looked into it you would find that many were actually born in different cities, states, or even countries, but no mention of it in the listing.

    • TC April 25, 2012 at 9:13 am #

      Well said

    • paul vincent zecchino May 4, 2012 at 12:43 pm #

      Hey, pal, look. OK? Alright? Look, face facts OK? Why won’t you come clean? Can’t you admit you’re beat? It’s over.

      The latest birth certificate pimped off by the tv networks a year ago is just an illusion, a confection created by some fancy computer manipulations.

      Anyone who’s ever examined documents would immediately recognize the obvious badges of fraud all over that poopsheet they fobbed off as a birth certificate.

      Insulting citizens as ‘birthers’ proves that these bums have plenty more they’re hiding.

      A birth certificate, like any other document, is evidence. Evidence either fits or it doesn’t. And when its manufactured evidence, it not only doesn’t fit but worse, it become evidence that chicanery is afoot.

      Look, you can recite all the talking points you want from move on, media matters, and the other leftist rat subversive groups funded by soros.

      But that won’t make you right. It just makes you a shill parrot, someone who allows themself to be used by a very cynical group of sly operators who have shown themselves to be a death cult, given communism’s horrific record of atrocities.

      It’s over. You’re lame. You’re bust. Go cry a little.*

      Paul Vincent Zecchino
      Manasota Key, Florida
      04 May, 2012

      * – with apologies to ever brilliant David Mamet, from
      his wonderful study, “HEIST”, c. 2001

  9. Yoda April 23, 2012 at 7:33 pm #

    Good Captain:

    You give great advice.

    I suspect (hope) that the RNC is holding out a trump card on the Obamanation’s eligibility and will document exposing him at a strategic time in the campaign.

    Right on good Captain – WRITE ON!

    P.S. The anticipated and unexpected civil disturbances consequences of our great leader’s being exposed is huge.

  10. JustMe April 23, 2012 at 10:38 pm #

    The false Birth Certificate and other evidence pointing to a real possibility that our President is not an American citizen, and the serious ramifications of this if it is true, should trouble all Americans regardless of whether or not one is an Obama supporter. This is not about whether one likes the President or not. It is about the integrity of the Constitution and our country’s laws. And it is about a political machine which would knowingly support such a travesty.
    Let the truth come out and let the chips fall where they may.

    The childish pointing of the finger elsewhere, in an attempt to somehow take the attention away from this serious accusation, is absurd and inexcusable.

  11. Holger Pedersen April 24, 2012 at 2:21 am #

    You write, “And, why did he spend over a million dollars on legal fees fighting to prevent the release of that document?

    “Answer: Because it never existed in the first place.”

    Why would it cost a million dollars to prevent the release of a non-existent document?
    – Holger

    • Rachel April 24, 2012 at 11:57 am #

      “Why would it cost a million dollars to prevent the release of a non-existent document?”

      It takes time and money to find the person to manufacture a fraudulent document, assemble the necessary pieces from other documents and put it all together to perpetrate one massive forgery.

      Then it takes more time and money to prepare the proper CYA plan, intimidate or pay off the media outlets and get the propaganda spin going. I’ll bet that when this all hits the light of day, we’ll see that a lot more than a million of our taxpayer dollars were spent on this fraud.

  12. FJM April 24, 2012 at 2:31 am #


    Great job, once again. I keep wondering what it will take to wake up the American public? Who knows!

    Keep plugging along Marshall.

  13. Roger April 24, 2012 at 11:56 am #

    If only 40% of the population knew what was really going on. There is so much. Keep spreading the word.

  14. Jim April 24, 2012 at 2:32 pm #

    Very well presented Marshall. What many people who support Obama fail to admit is that the Hawaiian officials first stated that they had no birth certificate for Obama. It was only after the White House had a discussion with the Hawaiiaqn Governor that a birth certificate showed up. However the form was not one that was in use at the time of Obamas birth. As you have stated, why was over a million dollars spend keeping all of his documents secret. This puts a dark cloud over every offical document he has from birth certificate to school records. Re. the comment that “reality” submitted. The fraud that has been committed has not contributed to terrorism but Obamas Kow_Towing to countries that support the terrorists. Also so haw can he have a Social Security number that was issued to some one else in a state that Obama had never lived in?

  15. TC April 25, 2012 at 9:30 am #

    It amazes me that someone could fall for the Christ Story, believe it whole heartedly without a thread of evidence and question the citizenship of a US president. If this story had a thread of lean meat evidence then the Republican party would have been all over it. Hillary would have been all over it, McCain would’ve been all over it. You people are really sad.

  16. reality April 25, 2012 at 9:30 pm #

    Thank you, TC. It really is like opinions have become accepted as facts. “Don’t speak ill of the dead”, I was told. Yet so many of you are claiming Obama’s mom, from Kansas no less, didn’t go to Hawaii, and her mom & dad put a fake birth notice in the newspaper? Obama kowtows to terrorists, another hater says. He killed Osama bin Laden, for heavens sakes, and those pirates! None of you Obama haters seem to give a darn about the Americans who were killed so terribly on 9/11. Unless you complained and blogged about the lack of investigation, the hauling away of evidence, the unbroken windows at either side of the Pentagon hole, please stop with your Conspiracy theories about Obama’s birth. It really IS sad, that none of you seem to have even looked at the photos in “Triple Cross” by Peter Lance. I sure hope Obama did not sign that law to allow the killing of American citizens, because Ali Mohamed was let out of whatever secret jail Patrick Fitzgerald finally put him in.

  17. JustMe April 25, 2012 at 10:44 pm #

    The blind following that Obama had at one time is dwindling. Many of those who loved him dearly, despite his pedestrian Senatorial history and past associations with terrorists and haters, have finally had to throw off the blinders and accept the truth of his corruption and lies.

    For the rest of those Obama-lovers who have too much time, money, and verbage invested in this President, they stubbornly refuse to face the truth.

    Like all blind followers, they will eventually have to embrace facts or, continue to appear uneducated.

  18. reality April 26, 2012 at 4:21 pm #

    The fact is, president Obama is responsible for the killing of Osama bin Laden.
    Are so many of you so mad, because you are friends of Osama? All those who were killed on 9/11 must have been cheering in heaven when Osama was shot in the eye.
    How puzzled they must be, that all of you are spending so much effort looking for a birth certificate, when their families and loved ones were called “Harpies” for demanding an investigation into their murders. In 1995, Judge Michael Mukasey, (look up his name in the index of “Triple Cross”, by Peter Lance-it’ll just take a minute from your BC search) says:
    “yes, we saw him (Ali Mohamed) on that splendid videotape” . (Taken by the FBI squad that “Got Gotti”), of Ali Mohamed teaching “middle-eastern-looking men” how to shoot AK 47’s at a Long Island shooting range. Patrick Fitzgerald was at that trial, he visited Ali in CA, and called him “the most dangerous man I have ever met”. Maybe all of you should be looking for Ali Mohamed (I bet Obama is, but then he cares about those who attacked us on 9/11). Before Ali brings Osama’s partner into the U.S again, for the 4th time?

    • TimothyLemoinePrice May 9, 2012 at 6:30 am #

      Benazir Bhutto said in a 2007 interview that Osama Bin Laden was killed December 26, 2001 and even named his killer

  19. JustMe April 28, 2012 at 1:03 pm #

    Recently, White House papers have been distributed which show Obama not as the one who “got Osama,” but rather as an indecisive, failed leader who, instead of giving the go ahead to get Osama, let it up to his generals because he couldn’t make the decision.

    These White House papers on the Bin Laden capture were asked for by the media and other groups but the “Least Transparent Administration in History,” refused to give them up until now.

    They make an interesting read on the ineffectual, cowardly leader Obama who is interested in moving forward with anything only if it gets him votes, money and power, not necessarily in that order.

    America deserves a brave leader instead of the who leads this country now.

    • Rachel April 28, 2012 at 2:06 pm #

      Well said, Just Me. We DESPARATELY need a real leader…unfortunately, Romney will be more of the same. His little fake stutter and flipfloppiness indicate character traits that are simply obama-lite, rather than a strong, decisive leader which this country needs.

  20. reality April 28, 2012 at 8:05 pm #

    Gee, justme, who’s the Commander in chief, where the buck stops? Obama has been a true leader, channeling Christ, Lincoln, and Eisenhower, it seems to me.
    Just think of the bridges that could be repaired, the children that could be educated,
    the disabled and old people that could live better lives, if all of you HATERS would
    start helping to get the car out of the ditch.

  21. reality May 5, 2012 at 6:49 pm #

    It was like a new religion, a cult, one of the guys who was at the opening of the 1936 Olympics in Berlin said. “The Goebbels Diaries”, on DVD, has him too, saying, Nazism is like a new religion. All of you Obama-haters, too, seem to have found a new religion. It is really scary. Peter Bergen, in his book, “Manhunt”, names the CIA guy who told Obama, that the odds of 40% that Osama was in that house, were the same odds that WMD were in Iraq. Robt. Gates was opposed to the raid, as was Pinetta, I think he said, and many others. Admiral McMullen said it was Obama who added the bigger Chinook helicopters, in case our guys couldn’t get out. So he, Obama, cared deeply about our troops. Everything he and Michelle have done has proven that, but not to you haters. You wrap yourself in your hate, and think it is the American flag, but it is not. You are the ones cutting away at the very fabric of America, piece by piece. I wish all of you could take a ride in space, to see your insignificance. Of course, if you end up being the cause of destroying God’s beautiful blue planet, I wonder what He will say.

    • Roger May 5, 2012 at 7:17 pm #


      The most misinformed, preposterous account of the whiole deal.


  22. reality May 5, 2012 at 8:31 pm #

    I gave names, facts. all you have is a “conspiracy theory”?

  23. Roger May 5, 2012 at 8:58 pm #

    Misspelled names, facts? Conspiracy theory?

    Your comments are unworthy of a second intelligent response.

    Have a nice life.

  24. reality May 6, 2012 at 8:49 pm #

    Gee, Roger; If you want 40% of the population to know what’s going on, shouldn’t you tell them, rather than just refuse to refute the facts? Osama is dead, and GM is alive.
    Oh, Joe Stalin died in the 1950’s, after the godless Commies of the Soviet Union had destroyed ONE THIRD of Hitler’s army. How many Americans of the “so-called” Greatest Generation, are alive today because the Commies fought back at Leningrad, for over a year? The Commies of the Soviet Union rescued our astronauts in space after the Challenger disaster. China is STILL Communist. If you buy ANYTHING “made in China”, you are supporting Communism. And continuing to believe in this “Birther Conspiracy” after 3 years, is really amazing. You attack a dead woman; no 2 of them now, and a WWII vet. But then Repubs voted against the Lily Ledbetter law, and have said NO to veterans too, haven’t they?

  25. TimothyLemoinePrice May 9, 2012 at 6:13 am #

    Which do you choose? Candidate or Constitution? Miles Romney was prosecuted in 1885 under the Edmunds Anti-Polygamy Act (for polygamy). This act allowed certain citizenship rights to be stripped of those convicted. Shortly after that he left for Mexico, taking his family with him. Mitt Romney’s grandparents were born on foreign soil, ( Utah became a state in 1896 ), and they were in Mexico before Utah did join the U.S..”Gaskell sued Mexico for the loss of his property and, in 1938, was awarded damages of $9,163. Half of the money went to his son, George Romney, putting the family on a solid financial footing.” – ONLY Mexican Citizens could own property in Mexico! Mitt’s father George was born in Mexico and came to the U.S. in 1912. Mitt’s birth certificate is meaningless. It only proves he was “native born”. We need legal documents proving George Romney was a U.S. citizen in 1947 with no divided loyalties, no dual citizenship.

  26. TimothyLemoinePrice May 9, 2012 at 6:17 am # (most other videos of this have been removed) Osama Bin Laden died on December 26, 2001.

  27. scottyg1958 May 20, 2012 at 6:24 am #

    mr frank- i think we’re on the same page on most all of your topics! period!!! but it is ironic your marshal frank and his mentor and possibly paternal pop’s is frank marshal!!!!(JUST SAYING) in the near future so many people are going to be awakened by all of the truth’s that finally come out of obama’s closet.. when his crown is finally put aside even his most loyal subjects will begin to turn!!! when that happens some of his closet comrades at one point or another will feel betrayed by his majesty…the secrets will come pouring out ..right now ,his so called confidants feel he can give them something more important than money and that’s power … but when his capacity of power is unable to pass that power along money will be the reason he is sold out!!! me personally i don’t know what’s the truth or not, but where there’s so much smoke a fire is inevitable!!!! the birther issue//old barack being on the downlow//christian or muslim?//the larry sinclair story//his wife being involved in an extortion issue while working for mayor daly//the 2 homosexuals who went to his church and were murdered between nov. & dec. 2007// and these are just a few personal issues that may or may not be true!!! oneday soon i bet we find out!!!! and as far as his stepping all over the united states constitution-well that’s obvious!!!! with so much potential dirty laundry hanging over his head i think any person with half a brain would at least question his qualifications!!!! i can assure you if he were a republican and i knew these issues were possible you can bet i’d run just as fast and as far away from him as possible!!!! i think one should care more for the country versus a political party…..character should be the most important thing when considering a president -not how well he reads a teleprompter….if hilary had won do you really think these issues would be on the table??? you maynot agree with her policies but at least the tabloid fodder would be kept to a minimum…. wake up people!!!! if we don’t straighten this situation out, america won’t be america for very much longer!!! we all need to pull together and get this right!!!!

  28. scottyg1958 May 20, 2012 at 6:47 am #

    timmy we know that you guy’s would think polygamy was ok if B.H.O.’s great grand dad was in to it….wait a minute , that’s right his dad was!!!!! but you do raise a valid point about romney being a natualized citizen–but again barry’s dad is from africa so the naturalized citizen thing really shouldn’t be an issue with you understanding folks on the left-now should it? onething for sure is that mitt is an american, naturalized or not!!!

  29. reality May 23, 2012 at 4:14 pm #

    To ScottG: So Obama killing Osama did not convince you of his qualifications? He just answered questions after the NATO summit, w/o a teleprompter, making sure to get in the reporter who had just spoken to our worried troops in Afghanistan. 9/11 means nothing to you? All those Americans killed so terribly, but Bush opposes an investigation for 2 years, and then he & Cheney insist on being like Butch & Sundance, but not under oath. But you sure have investigated Obama. But like Bush, you don’t think much about Osama at all.

    • Rachel May 23, 2012 at 8:39 pm #

      Time for another drink of the kool-aid, reality. You’re getting hysterically incoherent again!

    • scott May 24, 2012 at 1:21 am #

      was bush even mentioned in mr franks article? i assure you toward the end of the bush term he made a few decisions i wasn’t that happy with!!! most were due to the house and the senate being in control by the democrats….as far as obama killing usama bin laden well that’s just nut’s!!!!! yes he made the call to pull the trigger but real men entered the facility and actually pulled the trigger…and yes that’s one decision i’m glad he made!!!!!! but only 2 people that i know of in that position wouldn’t have made the proper call: i know he’s never been in that position but (ron paul)-because he said so!! and (jimmy carter)……..and what branch of the service did you serve? my younger brother is in afghanistan as we speak!!! and my dad is a retired w4 army…my other brother and myself served in the navy —my 2 son’s both served –1 in the coastguard and the other in the army!!!! as far as the bush 2 year delay if there was one – neither you or i could ever imagine what he had to go thru and what decisions had to be made to justify that decision ..un-imaginable!!!! of course i’m sure you have an opinion about that and you have every right to bloviate that opinion–just as i do!!!! and i have had a hard time investigating obama as alot of his records are sealed.. but i do have a very good friend who worked for the chicago tribune and there is alot of local knowledge that most people or aware of but will never reach the “lame stream media”…a couple of months ago i posed this question to my younger brother(the one who’s over there) i asked him do we really need to be there fighting this war? tim thought about it for a couple of minutes looked at me and said: remember how upset the locals were over the burning of he koran and how they rioted in the streets but as far as that marine who killed the 17 locals-he said we heard about it here in the united states and we made a very big deal about it but over there it wasn’t much of an issue.. so the burning of the koran pissed them off much more than the killing of there own people!!! here in the usa it would be a totally opposite reaction i think you would agree…. he said they don’t think at all like we do and we need to be there to handle business or we would have to be handling it on a much grander scale here in the usa!!!!! so yea i’d say 9/11 means more to me than most… i worry about my bro every second!!!!! and again if you would do a little more homework about b.h.o. even you may have a question about his past!!!! THE REALITY is no president has been or will be perfect – but no one who has ever obtained the highest office in the land has had so many un-answered questions about his past or his character!!!

  30. Rachel May 24, 2012 at 11:19 am #

    Scott, I’m interested in your friend who works for the Chicago tribune and here’s why. I think he/she might be able to help me with something.
    Two years ago, I was on and just for hahas, I typed in the name Barack Obama. Apparently, there were SEVERAL of them in this country at the time….imagine that? A name like that is COMMON???? I don’t think so!
    Anyhow, I looked at several of these BO’s and found that there was a baby boy born in Chicago who died, I think, in August of 2006. I remembered hearing or reading somewhere that BO had had an affair years ago in Chicago, so I found in interesting that a baby boy with his name died in 2006, which is when we started to hear about him entereing the national political arena. listed the Chicago Tribune as the source of their information about this little boy. I followed the link and read the obit, which also listed a couple of other people as well.
    A couple of months later, I was telling someone about this and referred them to and the Tribune. They replied that there was no info on about this baby boy, and, believe it or not, the Tribune’s obit page for that day was no longer available. Not believing this, I went and checked for myself, and found out that this was true. All reference to the baby boy was removed from AND when I went to the Tribune’s website, I found that the obits for that day were not available. I would love to know more about this baby boy….I suspect there is something very deep and ugly about all of this.
    And I also find it bizarre that there are so many people around the US with the BO name. It almost makes me think that the name is used for foreign operatives who are randomly inlfiltrating this country and spawning the likes of what we have in office right now. Perhaps your friend might be able to shed some light on this information.

  31. reality May 24, 2012 at 8:44 pm #

    Scott, it was president Bush who sent our troops into Afghanistan. Though they had not attacked us. So they let a rich Saudi use their territory? They welcomed many Muslims, and Americans, from all over the world, when they were trying to expel the Soviet Union. Their customs give protection to guests. But the Afghans were trying to exchange Osama for the Blind Sheik Rahman, in our prison for the first WTC attack. Bush then took troops out of Afghanistan, and sent them to Iraq, to get rid of its SECULAR leader, who had always killed Muslim extremists. So Afghanistan was left unsecure, and more American troops were killed there. It was the French who got the UN to make a law that if a country was attacked, (like the U.S), it was legal for that country to go into another country and get the culprits. You dis Ron Paul and Jimmy Carter, who DID send troops into Iran? Thousands of our troops were all over the Mideast, but NONE of them got Osama, until Obama led the way.

  32. scott May 25, 2012 at 1:17 am #

    rachel i’ll mention that to him and get back to ya via this site! and to my old pal mr reality – i appreciate the back and forth, i really do! but i have this other brick wall i must confer with…i’m sure your a great guy but our politics will not see eye to eye until one of us have our life experiances expanded! and yes maybe it’s mine that needs the work….myself being 54 –married for 31 years to a teacher–2 son’s 30 & 21 who so far in life seem to be doing ok—owner of a couple of business’s and who’s military background ranges from every single male from my great grandfather to my youngest son and all of my cousins and uncle’s in between – no doubt i still have alot to learn… but onething i do know is how to judge a man’s character!!! and i can assure you B.H.O.’S character is more than questionable….. i had a very smart man tell me this: “if your not a liberal by the time your 18 you don’t have a heart”!!! “if your not a conservative by the time your 25 you don’t have a brain”!!! i agree it takes both to survive but common sense will take you farther in life than any B.S. you could ever read about or any knucklehead you could ever listen to…..gooluck pal

  33. reality May 25, 2012 at 3:56 pm #

    I don’t understand how it is “conservative” to send 60,000 Americans to invade Iraq.
    How was it “conservative” to increase that amount to 100,000, along with 100,000 private contractors, while at the same time reducing troops in Afghanistan. Leaving the rest to “hold the forts”, which were often overrun by returning Taliban. Maybe some would say Bush was “conservative” not to let our Special Forces go over the mountains to the East of Tora Bora, to get Osama. So was it “liberal” of Obama to risk our Special Forces to sneak into Pakistan and get Osama? It was Obama who added the second helicopter, to make sure our troops could get out, if anything happened. That sounds “conservative” to me, and of good character.